It's not just the geographical distance between Lombardy and Brisbane, but even more so the generational one, that makes us wonder, as we write these questions, whether they even make sense. Maybe some don't, but Louis Forster doesn't let on too much, also masking the evident enthusiasm for what's happening to his band The Goon Sax.
So, basically the first thing you remember is being 17 years old, and now you find yourself with reviews on Pitchfork and NME, planning a European tour and, who knows, maybe even a move to Berlin. What's on your mind right now?
[laughs] Well, right now I'm just trying to focus on finishing school, so I can spend more time on tour and have more time to work on music. That's more or less the big goal I have in mind at the moment.
I read that you're a fan of Galaxie 500 (I am too), and you can hear it in the songs. On that note, I couldn't help but notice the coincidence in the lineup of the two bands, since Riley, your drummer, also joined the group after just a month of lessons, a bit like Naomi Yang in Galaxie 500 (even though she played bass). Looking back, do you think that was important for your music?
I love the way Naomi plays bass, she's probably my favourite bassist of all time! I remember when Riley joined the band. James and I were relieved that she'd only been playing for a month, because it meant her drum parts would be very simple and the focus would stay squarely on the lyrics and melodies. I remember during the early rehearsals we told her that it would be totally fine if she just hit the snare every now and then, so we were really thrilled when she started doing actual fills. She completely exceeded our expectations. I don't think we were thinking of Naomi when she joined us, but we definitely appreciated people like her, in the sense that we saw being amateurs as an advantage, rather than a problem.
On Chapter Music's website you're described as "three songwriters". I'm curious, how do you write and arrange the songs? Do you all come into the rehearsal room together with an idea and develop it together, or something else?
We all write separately, usually each of us brings a completely finished song into the rehearsal room and everyone works on their own part alongside the others. We've tried jamming, just to see what happens, but it doesn't work, at least not for us.
It seems to me that the album's lyrics are almost all about growing up today (correct me if I'm wrong), and two tracks on the tracklist have a name in the title ("Susan", "Maggie"). Is there a connection between the songs and the stories they tell? If so, what is it?
Yes, the lyrics weren't meant to be specifically about growing up, but I guess they are, because that's what we were going through when we wrote them, so it comes through. As for "Maggie" and "Susan", the two aren't connected, I've always liked songs with names in the title - the Monkees have "Valerie" and "Mary" and it's something I've always loved. I remember reading that their songwriters were told to give the songs common girls' names, so that all the girls with that name would buy the single. I found that idea fascinating.
I find myself wondering how Australian indie-pop can still sound so similar after 30 years - looking, for example, at your labelmates, Twerps and Dick Diver. Much more so than indie-pop bands in Europe or America. What do you think about that?
I don't think we sound that similar, one of the things I love about Australian bands is that I think that sound has been explored and changed a lot without losing one very distinctive element, which I guess is the common thread running through all the different bands. Groups like Cannanes or Apartments definitely had an influence on a lot of young bands, but I think Twerps and Dick Diver are a good example of how far you can push that sound and keep reshaping it, making it sound really fresh.
And the contemporary Australian scene? I know you went on tour with Blank Realm, for example. Who are your favourites?
There are so many great bands in Australia right now, and a few good labels too. Blank Realm are definitely among our favourites. Lower Plenty, The Mosaics, Totally Mild, Dick Diver and No Zu are also great. It's a good thing to have so many great bands around, it means there are always people to see, to play with. It's kind of thrilling when you listen to a great band that lives in your own city. Sometimes I think I was just a few kilometres away from where they wrote the song, that's nice.
You recently posted a Spotify playlist with the songs that inspired “Up To Anything”. I noticed a big absence, the Bats. I thought they were a cornerstone for any indie-pop band in your area, isn't that so?
No, they definitely are, we left quite a few bands off the playlist – we probably would have come close to ten hours of music if we'd included everything. The Bats are great!
Being a big fan of the Go-Betweens, I have to ask you, what does your father think of the record and of the band in general?
He seems to like it. I don't think I've ever actually asked him.
Are you planning to add Italian dates to your European schedule?
We'd love to come to Italy! The problem is we only have two weeks of touring, since it's during my school holidays. Once we move to Berlin and can get around your Europe more easily, we'll definitely come – all the time, actually! I think James in particular said he wants to come.
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This article is an English translation of the original Italian text by Fabio Guastalla, published on OndaRock.it. It was translated with the help of artificial intelligence, under the editorial responsibility of OndaRock's editor-in-chief, Claudio Fabretti.
| Up To Anything (Chapter, 2016) | 7.5 | |
| We're Not Talking (Wichita/Pias, 2018) | 6.5 | |
| Mirror II (Matador, 2021) | 7 |