Rivulets - Suffering spirit or spirit in love?

interview by Andrea Vascellari

Nathan Amundson made his debut as the "protégé" of Alan "Low" Sparhawk, who produced his first two, splendid albums. On "Rivulets" and "Debridement", he whispers delicate poems over skeletal chords and slow guitar arpeggios, blending Drake-esque folk with the slowcore his mentor helped bring to prominence. With the following "You Are My Home", the arrangements grow richer, thanks to numerous illustrious collaborators including Jessica Bailiff and ex-Codeine member Chris Brokaw, steering Rivulets' art towards a fuller form of songwriting. Here is the interview he granted us exclusively.

Let's start from the beginning. A lot of people have written that your first LP was one of the best debuts of the decade. What do you think about that after eight years?

I'm flattered that anyone would say that. I don't listen to my albums much after making them, but I'm happy if people are still discovering and enjoying them today. I had a great time while writing that record and I learned a lot in the process.

 

RivuletsThe following track, “Debridement”, comes close to perfection. It opens by saying there was a presence in the room, and some fans suspect it was the spirit of Nick Drake… How has Drake's music influenced you, and what are your other main sources of inspiration?

That line definitely isn't about Nick Drake. It means, rather, that certain places seem haunted, or not quite peaceful enough. When I was living in Alaska I ordered “Pink Moon” from the local record store. I'd read a lot about it, but had no idea what it would actually sound like. It completely captivated me at the time, and it still does. It's a perfect, concise record, with no filler.

As for other inspirations, there are too many… Cure, Bauhaus, Smiths and Morrissey, Billie Holiday, Talk Talk and Mark Hollis's solo album, Swans, Codeine, Red House Painters, Low, Labradford, David Bowie, Iggy Pop & The Stooges, Big Star, Velvet Underground and Lou Reed, Robert Johnson, Rolling Stones, Sam Cooke, Zombies, Kinks, Stone Roses, a lot of dub, especially Scientist, Impact All Stars and Lee Scratch Perry and the Upsetters…

My favorite band for the last ten years or so has always been Stars Of The Lid.

 

“Debridement” includes a song called “Cutter”. The lyrics are very moving and harrowing… is there something autobiographical in it?

Yes. I used to cut myself as a kid, up until I was twenty. It's not something I wanted to encourage or glorify. I just tried to express what it feels like to be that person, someone who needs a way out and sees that as the only way to find some relief.

 

Both of these LPs were released by Chairkickers' Union: was Alan Sparhawk's work important to you? And why did you change labels?

After the success of the Low album “Christmas”, I think Alan decided to start putting out music by other people besides his own. He recorded the first and second Rivulets albums and offered to release them as the label's first records not connected to Low. As CD sales declined, Chairkickers lost its distribution and decided to focus mainly on local bands from the Duluth area who don't tour internationally, unlike me. I moved to Important because they handle promotion and distribution worldwide. Alan and I live close to each other and see each other when we're both in town. He's always been very supportive, and we're still friends.

A lot of collaborators played on “You Are My Home”. Was it hard working with so many people?

Not at all. I chose all those people because they each do their own thing that I'm a fan of, and I wanted them to bring a bit of their own artistry into Rivulets. It's always been that way with the collaborators I've chosen, and I've been extremely lucky, since so many of them said yes.

 

I read that you'd like to drop the Rivulets moniker and use your real name in the future. Is that true? Can you explain this choice to us?

I'd be curious to know where you read that, but it might be true. After ten years, Rivulets is sometimes a character I'm tired of playing. Not that it isn't me, but it's only one part of me. It's not a part of me I want to live with all the time. On the other hand, there are new songs that have been written very much from Rivulets' point of view, ones I wouldn't feel right putting my own name on. So we'll see.

 

A few gorgeous new songs can be heard online (“The Road” is one example): are you already working on your fourth LP? When will it be ready?

I'm ready. But making an album costs money. I've never been interested in making Rivulets albums at home on a laptop. I didn't become a musician to stare at a computer screen. If a label or producer were willing to make a record in a proper studio with a proper engineer (that is, not me), it could happen very quickly. For now, I'm waiting.

Any news about the split album with Jessica Bailiff that's been rumored for a while now?

Jess and I recorded a few covers, but not enough to make an album we'd be happy with. Some of these songs came out as standalone singles or on compilations, but for now each of us has other projects we're working on.

 

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This article is an English translation of the original Italian text by Andrea Vascellari, published on OndaRock.it. It was translated with the help of artificial intelligence, under the editorial responsibility of OndaRock's editor-in-chief, Claudio Fabretti.

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Discography

Demos (EP, self-released, 2000)
Rivulets (Chairkickers'Union, 2002) 7
The Alcohol Eps (EP, Silber, 2002)
Thank You Reykjavik (EP, Bluesanct, 2002)
Glacial Dreaming (EP, Honeyspidethree, 2002)
Debridement (Chairkickers'Union, 2003) 8
Rivulets/Marc Gartman (EP, Tract, 2004)
You've Got Your Own (EP, Acuarela, 2004)
You Are My Home (Important Records, 2006) 7.5
Stray Songs: 2000-2010 (anthology, self-released, 2010)
We're Fucked (Important Records, 2011) 6.5
Yearlings (EP, self-released, 2012) 6
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